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landslide07 62F
102 posts
5/13/2013 5:54 pm

    Quoting  :

Why did I get banned? I'm just a reader.
Sandra, no one is harassing or attacking you. They are responding to your comments about what makes a quality blog and your thoughts about how many times someone should post. You may think that speed blogging diminishes the blogs but some of these people think YOUR consistent and repetive "Rate My XXXXXXX" blogs are not quality blogging and diminishes from actual quality writing.

Stop this nonsense and stop the 'should I contact the abuse department?' threat. You are making EN look like a quality blogger in comparison.


LadyGrayLeopard 63F
26369 posts
5/14/2013 12:32 am

    Quoting cutecpl692010:
    I live in the United States and I just want mine noticed more cause I love doing this and want more followers. I am not sure how to get more without some way of getting more exposure through these lists. Someone who had seen me comment on here wrote me a crappy email putting down my blog and telling me til I get at least 50 watchers that I didn't have a right to voice my opinion on this poll. Does it matter how many watchers a person has or do we all have the right to voice an opinion on this?
Don't get discouraged by that kind of mails!!
Just BLOG!!!

One way to get more exposure is to be active:
travel around the Blogland and comment
Find the people you like, who think in the same way.

Was myself thinking about the question about the comment amount etc but came to the conclusion that every blogger should be on that list.

It's the smallest ones, the latest ones that need most the support of other bloggers
The biggest fish survive without help.



lindoboy100 61M  
23969 posts
5/14/2013 5:53 am

I feel the need once again to appeal for calm, and for comments to be restricted to the matter at hand.

Personal attacks, threats and ridicule do nothing to advance the discussion in the positive way it needs to be taken forward. Please try to put the greater good before self interest and revenge attacks. Please?

Aryana, is there anything further to report on progress here? And thanks again for your consideration, it's very much appreciated.


rm_4jasmine2 53F
10698 posts
5/14/2013 5:55 am

I have only just seen this and not sure if I am too late. Started reading replies, but they are just too many and too long for my limited time, so sorry if I repeat something someone has said or I'm after the fact.

I have just appeared on the "most active posts" and was on the "active blogs" list for a while too. Suddenly I had views, watchers and replies streaming in like never before. Being on a "TOP" list is a catch 22. You get more replies and because you have more, you go to the top of the list - etc etc.

By rotating it, more bloggers will get a chance to be seen. The top active blogs can stay in place I guess.

Also, what difference does it make if the bloggers are American or not? Most of my watchers are not from South Africa, my main following is American. Give us all equal opportunity, don't make different lists for non-Americans please!

On another note: Very frustrating when one blogger posts 10 different posts in a few moments and kicks all other new posts off the most recent list. Can it not be kept to one post per blogger please?

Something interesting in my life: A surprise on my naked body this morning
Come visit my blog to know what I get up to from time to time: [blog 4jasmine2]


sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
5/14/2013 10:39 am

I would really like to see the active list rotated from time to time.



Become a blog watcher sweet_vm


lindoboy100 61M  
23969 posts
5/14/2013 11:29 am

    Quoting community:
    I know there is a lot of tension here and lots of history, so coming up with the criteria for this type of change is difficult. We want to make the best change we possibly can, and understand that some people will still be unhappy.

    Do we want to truly *randomly* show users instead of ANY ranking? We want to be 100% clear on what you as a community prefer before we make any changes. I may put up another poll with several different options for how the list can look.

    For example:
    -Show active blogs (1 post every 1.5/2 months) to appear in rotation; list rotates when page refreshed [The caveat here is that quality of the content may be low]
    -Show random blogs by number of responses instead of just sorting by number of responses [So, blogs that are considered a hot/active blogs will appear in random, instead of just the first 10 showing. I'm not entirely sure right now how many blogs would be included, I imagine this number can be decided. I would say top 100 to appear in random order?]

    Other suggestions are welcome. Again, I just want to make sure we can come up with a solution that makes as many users happy as possible.
Aryana, thanks for this.

Of the two choices you indicate here, my own preference would be to show users randomly, the only proviso being that they would need to have posted recently to be included in the list (45 to 60 days seems fine). That way, despite the compromise on quality (who decides what is and isn't quality in any case?), we would still get to see unknown and new bloggers which is really the whole point of the exercise to start with - to shed some light on hitherto unknown parts of the community so that it is more inclusive for all.

Randomising the top 100 (say) most active blogs may still leave
the list open to some degree of manipulation and gaming, and whilst it would be an improvement, it will still lead to competitive blogging, and therefore tension.


FullOn4U 58M
20399 posts
5/14/2013 12:09 pm

    Quoting community:
    I know there is a lot of tension here and lots of history, so coming up with the criteria for this type of change is difficult. We want to make the best change we possibly can, and understand that some people will still be unhappy.

    Do we want to truly *randomly* show users instead of ANY ranking? We want to be 100% clear on what you as a community prefer before we make any changes. I may put up another poll with several different options for how the list can look.

    For example:
    -Show active blogs (1 post every 1.5/2 months) to appear in rotation; list rotates when page refreshed [The caveat here is that quality of the content may be low]
    -Show random blogs by number of responses instead of just sorting by number of responses [So, blogs that are considered a hot/active blogs will appear in random, instead of just the first 10 showing. I'm not entirely sure right now how many blogs would be included, I imagine this number can be decided. I would say top 100 to appear in random order?]

    Other suggestions are welcome. Again, I just want to make sure we can come up with a solution that makes as many users happy as possible.
Aryana, I think that what people really want is a complete end to any "ranking". It is the ranking that causes the tension!

I see no drawback to a completely random list.

You say that the quality of the content may be low, but for many people the content of the top blogs is nothing special - popularity does not guarantee quality! In any case, taste is a personal thing.

Besides, we have comments from people in this post who are new to blogging and are finding it difficult to get noticed - who is to say that these unknown blogs are any less worthy in any way than the top blogs?


MissMimosa 51F
2624 posts
5/14/2013 12:17 pm

    Quoting  :

I totally agree with Koffla! This option would have my vote.

These are the Aims and Objectives. Please read. of the group, Bloggers United! which I moderate.

And a link to a post about my home town, Glasgow ,I hope you enjoy it!


Centaur_UK 46M
1770 posts
5/14/2013 12:25 pm

Hi Aryana, i think an "active blog" would be considered to be one that is posted within the last 30 days. I would scrap the idea of logged in within the last 3 months to appear on the list. The rotating list should be blogs posted within the last 30 days.
....And as we can see from some of the comments on this blog and the drama here, this has been caused by the current format of the lists.
The current list format needs to be changed in order to avoid this kind of behaviour in the future.

and.............WARNING for Porn viewers

Please visit my blog here Centaur_UK


BrownEyedBBW 55F  
8831 posts
5/14/2013 12:44 pm

Do we want to truly *randomly* show users instead of ANY ranking? We want to be 100% clear on what you as a community prefer before we make any changes. I may put up another poll with several different options for how the list can look.

Here's the $64,000 question: What do you (and by that I mean LesbianPersonals management) want to accomplish with the "active blog" list? You could rename the Recent Post list as the Active Post list and it would be just as accurate. Or you could continue to do what you do now which is to employ formula for determining which blogs are most active.

Most blogging sites in the blogosphere will show random blogs, so a lot of different blogs/bloggers get a chance at exposure. There are some distinct advantages to that, sort of like a "you too can be a star for a day" feeling. That can be an inducement for people to post more regularly, more often.

On the other hand, you don't necessarily know what you're getting when you go random. If you confine it to the most active (however you choose to define that) you can maintain more control over which blogs stay on top, and as a result the content. That's because people are most likely to keep visiting the blogs on the list, regardless of quality, content or anything else. It becomes self perpetuating, a known quantity that remains consistent.

The challenge with only presenting the top bloggers is it *does* becomes self perpetuating and any movement is glacial, the list becomes almost static. That carried with it its own set of problems.

It all depends on if you want diversity and exposure to a wide variety of blogs and bloggers or if you prefer to keep a known quantity front and center.

Honestly, I wouldn't even bother to ask people about what they want to see in this regard. Instead, I'd look at my own corporate goals and make my choice based on that.


LadyGrayLeopard 63F
26369 posts
5/14/2013 2:14 pm

Was wondering how to find right kind of blogs, according to interest. The rotation is not fully responding to this task.

There are obviously different types of bloggers, some blog only about sex, group sex, sub/dom, masturbation, others never about sex, some mainly show photos, some post poetry, some jokes. And so on, the list is endless.

And some, as obviously, would like to read only some type of blogs.

At least I never use the option 'forum'...
Did try to search something though that option but never found something for me.

And why so?
Just like me, we use that option too little. No much to find.

Perhaps promoting a bit this option could give more exposure to blogs, similar minded people might find each other easier.
And perhaps update that list a bit too... seems squirting is till missing...

The rotation and the forum together might give a fresh life to Blogland. More exposure to blogs we might not find otherwise!


landslide07 62F
102 posts
5/14/2013 4:35 pm

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    I feel the need once again to appeal for calm, and for comments to be restricted to the matter at hand.

    Personal attacks, threats and ridicule do nothing to advance the discussion in the positive way it needs to be taken forward. Please try to put the greater good before self interest and revenge attacks. Please?

    Aryana, is there anything further to report on progress here? And thanks again for your consideration, it's very much appreciated.
Bull! You ask for calm and have recently been the most visible one making fun of Sandra and her posts. It's no wonder she thinks the way she does. To be clear, I think it's all amusing. But for you to try to appear to be the voice of reason is just a wee ironic. No?

I'm sure you will ban me just like Sandra did.


1carve29 56M
65 posts
5/14/2013 7:56 pm

To me, an active blog post is less than 7 days. After that, move on. Maybe take a page out of a site like yahoo and allow the user to set their own likes. Across the header you could have the choice to sort by most recent, most responded, most watched. After 7 days, all entries drop off that list. This allows us the ability to see what we want to see and removes a.f.f from trying to appeal to the masses.

IMHO the problem comes in where you create competition. That is why you get the vitriol here. It is subjective as to what is a good blog. So, people who think they are writing amazing entries, see a blog that is just a picture or a poll getting all the notice and that pisses them off. The blogs that are like that, have a trumped up view of themselves because their numbers are high, so they mistake that as a referendum of popularity which must equate to being good.

Neither side is right! But I think the second you remove the competition, the things that most people hate about the blogs will dissapear. Because there will be no reward for it. It is more than obvious that there are those on this site who blog ONLY for the purpose of being at the top of these lists. That is not quality, it is pandering!


LadyGrayLeopard 63F
26369 posts
5/15/2013 5:49 am

    Quoting LadyGrayLeopard:
    Was wondering how to find right kind of blogs, according to interest. The rotation is not fully responding to this task.

    There are obviously different types of bloggers, some blog only about sex, group sex, sub/dom, masturbation, others never about sex, some mainly show photos, some post poetry, some jokes. And so on, the list is endless.

    And some, as obviously, would like to read only some type of blogs.

    At least I never use the option 'forum'...
    Did try to search something though that option but never found something for me.

    And why so?
    Just like me, we use that option too little. No much to find.

    Perhaps promoting a bit this option could give more exposure to blogs, similar minded people might find each other easier.
    And perhaps update that list a bit too... seems squirting is till missing...

    The rotation and the forum together might give a fresh life to Blogland. More exposure to blogs we might not find otherwise!
Back to this exposure and FORUM thing:

as it's Wednesday, noticed HNW should be added to the forums!!!
As it seems to be a regular feature on the site, not something lasting for a couple of months only.

A simple way to promote bloggers



lindoboy100 61M  
23969 posts
5/15/2013 1:50 pm

    Quoting landslide07:
    Bull! You ask for calm and have recently been the most visible one making fun of Sandra and her posts. It's no wonder she thinks the way she does. To be clear, I think it's all amusing. But for you to try to appear to be the voice of reason is just a wee ironic. No?

    I'm sure you will ban me just like Sandra did.
With all due respect McSlide, may I request that you express your opinion here on the matter at hand, rather than trying to heighten tension? I'm not sure we've seen it yet?

Please do feel free to raise any problems you may percieve with my conduct in the ville of blog somewhere else more appropriate. My blog is always open to reason. Ta much.


landslide07 62F
102 posts
5/15/2013 5:33 pm

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    With all due respect McSlide, may I request that you express your opinion here on the matter at hand, rather than trying to heighten tension? I'm not sure we've seen it yet?

    Please do feel free to raise any problems you may percieve with my conduct in the ville of blog somewhere else more appropriate. My blog is always open to reason. Ta much.
sorry but I thought I saw some irony and I commented on it. The matter at hand is? Doing away with the list? Rotating the list? All ye in favor of getting Miss Rate my Parts off the list raise your hand. All I'm saying is you have worked hard for a while to ridicule her. Calling all now to be calm is ironic.


landslide07 62F
102 posts
5/15/2013 6:21 pm

    Quoting  :

* Please Rotate my new and old crass pics
* Please inflate my new kitchen utensil photos
* Putt it with your favourite camel toe ….
* Does McDoe’s ballup look big in his new sexy or not thong, rate his sack
* Rate McDoes pointless thongs over and over again, yes or no
* Is my drunken fish still phluckable or not, scab pick included

These are titles of blogs recently posted by the man calling for calm.

To be truthful, I think its funny in a way. But it offends you and I understand why. On the other hand, I understand why some are offended by your slamming people who speed blog and stating what is quality blogging or what diminishes the blogs. Honestly, I don't think you have any more right to say what is good blogging than he does for poking fun at what he thinks is pandering blogging.

I get that this post by Community is trying to find common ground and input but until people put away their petty predjudices, no one is going to come out looking like their reasonable or voicing concerns that matter to everyone.

my 2 cents.


QUEENBEEV 59F
4200 posts
5/15/2013 8:33 pm

Please accept my apologies for anyone to whom I may have offhandedly "offended...stalked...or threatened...(that's the best one...I'm the least threatening person alive).

My comments were made as my personal OPINION...to which has been discussed here to the point of being strangling. Everyone here has the right to comment...and discuss...but obviously "quoting" and THEN posing your OPINION is somehow wrong.

This subject is a very heated one...with lots of emotions running close to the surface...and I got caught up in the "excitement".

But...again...these were meant to be taken as OPINION...mine...and mine alone...so it became my burden to bear...which I have...

Now...back to the matter at hand...it would be nice to see different blogs on the list...not the same exact thing day after day. Again...merely my OPINION...which I steadfastly refuse to give up...no matter what.

This is a giant glass house we play in...and no one can afford to throw stones around. No one here is without culpability...nor without (for lack of a better word) sin.

I've been here a long time...and read a lot of stuff...so if any person in this place can say they have NEVER said ANYTHING about another blogger in the heat of the moment is a LIAR.

Pointed at no one in particular...again...merely my OPINION.

Thank you for letting me have my say...and my vote.

Signing off as my alter ego...

The Joker

Come on over...let's play in my Castle! The hide and seek is awesome!

RATEYOURSELF


QUEENBEEV 59F
4200 posts
5/15/2013 8:47 pm

I have to wonder...if one knows about everything that is ever written about them...yet says people are "stalking" them...from the way the "laws" are written...anyone who follows a blog is technically "stalking" the blog owner.

Isn't it quite ironic?

I read and comment on a lot of blogs...I hope no one else sees me as a big ol threat...

Again...OPINION!

Smooches ya'll!

The JOKER

Come on over...let's play in my Castle! The hide and seek is awesome!

RATEYOURSELF


rm_ISORareGem 60F
8183 posts
5/15/2013 9:24 pm

    Quoting  :

I like Koffla's recommendation.

Personally, I am not here to get ratings and draw attention. But for some reason, it does seem to create drama.

what the world needs now..........


lindoboy100 61M  
23969 posts
5/16/2013 1:16 am

    Quoting landslide07:
    * Please Rotate my new and old crass pics
    * Please inflate my new kitchen utensil photos
    * Putt it with your favourite camel toe ….
    * Does McDoe’s ballup look big in his new sexy or not thong, rate his sack
    * Rate McDoes pointless thongs over and over again, yes or no
    * Is my drunken fish still phluckable or not, scab pick included

    These are titles of blogs recently posted by the man calling for calm.

    To be truthful, I think its funny in a way. But it offends you and I understand why. On the other hand, I understand why some are offended by your slamming people who speed blog and stating what is quality blogging or what diminishes the blogs. Honestly, I don't think you have any more right to say what is good blogging than he does for poking fun at what he thinks is pandering blogging.

    I get that this post by Community is trying to find common ground and input but until people put away their petty predjudices, no one is going to come out looking like their reasonable or voicing concerns that matter to everyone.

    my 2 cents.
All good and worthy points, all well made, all no doubt merit further debate, but preferably not here.

I understood that the purpose of having a rotating list is to shed some light on the areas of blogville which are otherwise under exposed, the idea being to make the community more inclusive and approachable.

Your views on that would be welcome, thanks.


lindoboy100 61M  
23969 posts
5/16/2013 6:06 am

    Quoting  :

I know, I was foolish. Please forgive me my moment of weakness oh Father! I'll not be making the same mistake again.


Spirit6669 58M
2234 posts
5/16/2013 12:23 pm

    Quoting community:
    I know there is a lot of tension here and lots of history, so coming up with the criteria for this type of change is difficult. We want to make the best change we possibly can, and understand that some people will still be unhappy.

    Do we want to truly *randomly* show users instead of ANY ranking? We want to be 100% clear on what you as a community prefer before we make any changes. I may put up another poll with several different options for how the list can look.

    For example:
    -Show active blogs (1 post every 1.5/2 months) to appear in rotation; list rotates when page refreshed [The caveat here is that quality of the content may be low]
    -Show random blogs by number of responses instead of just sorting by number of responses [So, blogs that are considered a hot/active blogs will appear in random, instead of just the first 10 showing. I'm not entirely sure right now how many blogs would be included, I imagine this number can be decided. I would say top 100 to appear in random order?]

    Other suggestions are welcome. Again, I just want to make sure we can come up with a solution that makes as many users happy as possible.
Any chance of returning to the topic now ??? This is where we were up to before the discussion degenerated into a load of shit that is irrelevant to the topic and does not advance the debate one iota.

We have two questions:

1) Do we want to ditch the current 'chart' form and have blogs shown in rotation ? - The answer to which is clearly a resounding YES ! On that, at least, the vast majority are agreed.

2) What exactly should the criteria be for the rotation system.

Given that the result of the vote is pretty much a foregone conclusion in favour of rotation, I think we should focus the discussion now on what the new system should be, which is where it was going before being sidetracked.

I don't think we can do this without considering the future of the Most Active Recent list too, I think that should be scrapped at the same time as the Active Blogs and Most Popular Male lists.

I suggest that these three 'charts' be replaced by two categories:

1) Active Blogs - All genders. Blog posted within the preceding six weeks. Rotated on page refresh. Completely random.

2) 'Trending' Posts - A rotation of the (say) 60 Blog Posts which have attracted the most comments in the preceding 24 hours. One per Blog. All genders.

I think we need a Trending category, or something similar, to lead people to where there is something happening now, where there is interaction going on today, if that is what they are looking for. Whilst I completely agree with comments that quality is subjective, I think we need to remember that there are a lot of blogs out there with two lines moaning about being here a week and not getting laid and suchlike, and many that are merely personal ads (even though not allowed), many that have been posted to once and given up etc etc Remember these will all appear in the 'Active' category anyway. This 'Trending' section should not appear in 'chart' form but be rotated on page refresh just like the 'Active' category. Of course subject to this being technically possible as far as the site is concerned.

Spirit6669
BLOG : Spirit6669 .. 21st Century Zen


hotsandy5 49F
10514 posts
5/16/2013 5:39 pm

    Quoting  :

I entirely agree with koffla.

A única alegria isenta de amargura é a de bem proceder.


Spirit6669 58M
2234 posts
5/16/2013 5:52 pm

    Quoting  :

At least you offered an opinion on the topic.. in your inimitable way

To be honest I'm not sure myself mate, just a suggestion, there's probably a better way, just think we need something in addition to the random list to tell us, and newbies in particular, where there is interaction today.

Spirit6669
BLOG : Spirit6669 .. 21st Century Zen


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